So… a few weeks ago I decided to listen to The Cure’s entire discography start-to-finish, in chronological order. Here are a few random thoughts:
- I have no idea why I did this. Like a lot of folks my age, I had an “angsty teen” phase in the late 80s where I wore a lot of black and listened to The Cure, The Mission, Sisiters of Mercy, etc., but The Cure’s not really a band that I’ve had much interest in past my early college days. I’ve for sure been in a “listen to a band’s whole discography” phase of late and I’ve done so recently with Roxy Music, The Jesus Lizard and a few others. Those, though, are some of my absolute favorite bands and listening to their catalogs really just reconfirmed what I already know: I like them a lot. Doing a catalog listen-through to a band I’m not really that into any more actually proved to be a more interesting experience since it actually engaged my critical faculties a lot more.
- The Cure’s first record isn’t very good. Whether you’re talking about the original UK release Three Imaginary Boys or the somewhat altered US version, Boys Don’t Cry, The Cure’s first release isn’t great. Yeah, I know it contains fan faves like “Killing an Arab,” “Boys Don’t Cry,” and “Fire in Cairo,” but compared to some of the other post-punk stuff that was coming out in 1979/80 the Cure’s first record is pretty slight stuff. It’s not even in the same league as records like Metal Box by Public Image Ltd or Chairs Missing by Wire.
- The second record is a whole lot better. Seventeen Seconds–released a year later in 1980–almost sounds like it was made by an entirely different band. Spooky, sparse and moody, this is where the band establishes the template for what most of their early phase will sound like. Listening to this again after many years I’m struck by how even the shorter songs seem long; the songs are often quite spare with just two or three basic parts, but the band is comfortable repeating things with only slight variations in arrangement in order to build up mood.
- The holy trinity. There seems to be a lot of debate among Cure aficionados about which of the three records Seventeen Seconds, Faith, or Pornography constitutes the high point of the band’s early career. Which of these you favor is going to depend largely on where you fall on the mopey-depressed/angry-depressed scale. Certainly, as a disgruntled teenager I gravitated toward Pornography and that’s what still sounds the best to me… but that’s maybe just nostalgia.
- “Then they get poppy.” The band released a bunch of singles right after Pornography which were eventually collected and released as the record Japanese Whispers. People seem to isolate this as the point at which the band began to exhibit some pop sensibilities. Re-listening to all the early stuff, though, I was struck by what a good pop songwriter Robert Smith is throughout their career. If you strip away the production and leave the basic chord progressions and melodies from even the moodiest of early Cure songs, you’ve got some pretty solid pop tunes.
- Why’s everyone hatin’ on The Top? I don’t think I had this record when I was younger, but I was surprised how much I liked it this go-round. It’s definitely the product of a band in flux, but I like that kind of thing. The only really “catchy” single here is the song, “The Caterpillar,” but this record seems like the beginning of the band’s best era–the Kiss Me/Disintegration psychedelic pop phase–and, while nowhere near as cohesive as either of those two records, it warrants better than the 2/5 stars it gets from AllMusic.
- Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me is the best Cure record. Other than a few die-hard fans of the early ’80s Cure, it seems like most folks consider Disintegration to be the band’s best record. Maybe it’s just that I was well beyond my Cure-listening phase by the time that Disintegration came out, but as an adult, Kiss Me is the one record in their catalog that I find myself going back to and really digging. It’s all over the place tone-wise, with bleak tunes like “This Kiss” and “Shiver and Shake” tempered with upbeat numbers like “Why Can’t I Be You” as well as the poppy “Just Like Heaven” and “The Perfect Girl.” The band seems to be still experimenting a bit here–which I like–whereas Disintegration seems like the record by which the signature Cure sound (sitar guitar, lots of chimes, etc.) has pretty well codified. I’m used to hearing Kiss Me on vinyl and I missed “Hey You” on the CD/digital version, though.
- Disintegration-era Cure: biggest “alternative” band in the land. There’s obviously a vast disparity between the 10 million-selling record Nevermind that Nirvana would release a few years later and The Cure’s three million-selling Disintegration, but I think music history has retroactively diminished the commercial importance of Disintegration. I may be overlooking some obvious record, but is there another example pre-1989 of an “alternative” band with a single that reached #2 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100? (The album itself reached #12 on the U.S. and #3 on the U.K. charts.)
- And the filler begins…. Man alive, there’s a lot of filler post-Disintegration. By 1989, when Disintegration was released, the band already had one Best Of (1986’s Staring at the Sea) and one live record (1984’s Concert). In the years following, they release an album of remixes (Mixed Up), a two CD live record in ’93 (Show), a single CD live record in ’94 (Paris), another greatest hits record in 2001, a two CD set of B-sides and demos in 2004, a 2010 three CD reissue of Disintegration that includes demos and a live show, and there’s apparently yet another remix album in the works.
- They’re a pretty damn good arena band. I’d never heard those ’93 and ’94 live records before and it initially seemed weird to hear this band playing in enormous arenas. But why would that be weird? Even in the post-Nevermind music climate The Cure was still a huge phenomenon. And they’re actually pretty damn good arena shows. I shouldn’t really have needed to be reminded of this. I road-tripped to Chapel Hill to see this Cure show back in ’92 and I remember it being a pretty good show, as coliseum shows go.
- “Everything after Disintegration sucks, man…” During the course of my listening, more than a few folks on Twitter expressed this basic sentiment. I have to admit that none of the post-Disintegration stuff really stuck with me, but honestly these aren’t bad records; they’re just competent records from a band that seems to have run its course ideas-wise. And that’s 100% OK for a band that’s been around and kicking out records for thirty-something years.
- “Wild Mood Swings is totally their worst record, man…” I got more than a few of these as well. (Although to be fair, big Cure fan/my former SLG editor/current Image Comics PR & marketing person Jenifer de Guzman mentioned this as one of her favorites.) I don’t know that I’ll be jamming out to Wild Mood Swings myself any time soon, but it’s the one post-Disintegration record that stood out to me as a genuine (and occasionally successful) attempt to move in a new creative direction. It also features some interesting instrumentation in a few places, including a lot of Fender VI bass, which you don’t hear a lot of. I can understand why this record isn’t a fave among the gothy crowd, but I found it a bright spot amidst the often-homogenous run of post-Disintegration records.
- And in conclusion: I think my mopey Cure-listening days are well behind me, even after an immersive listening of this variety. I probably gave short shrift to a lot of the band’s later material–a once-through is hardly fair–but, it’s a lot to ask of a band to continue to be vital and creative for three decades. Of The Cure’s contemporaries, only Mission of Burma and Wire come to mind as bands that are still making really great records thirty years into it–and they’ve both been substantially more spare in their output than The Cure (maybe a wise choice?). I’m sure I’ll still put Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me on the ol’ turntable every once in a while, but I think this experiment was more than enough Cure-listening to last me a while.
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The Cure is my sweet spot, but I’m with you on how the first album is unassuming (with the exception of the singles). I blame that on the band being new at it; PiL all had years of pro music experience behind them when they METAL BOX and the Wire’s first album PINK FLAG was similarly forgettable.
And I agree that the post-Disintegration albums are supremely uneven, but I’d argue there that there’s salvageable albums there if they would have used some of their b-sides as album material, etc.
With all due respect, Chris–are you calling PINK FLAG “forgettable”? I LOVE that record! (“Fragile” is one of the shortest and most perfect of pop songs…)
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@Chris – That’s a really good point about PIL. With the exception of Jah Wobble, those guys for sure had been around the block a bit before PIL launched.
I’ve got to totally disagree with your assessment of Pink Flag, though; that’s a truly amazing record–especially to appear out of the blue from a new band. There’s a reason that record gets a 5/5 from Allmusic, a 10/10 from Pitchfork, and a straight-up A from Robert Christgau.
As far as the post-Disintegration stuff, I think we’re probably in agreement. I think most of them are beyond “salvageable” and in fact pretty solid Cure records if you’re a fan. If I had to pick some standouts (beyond the live records and Wild Mood Swings, which I mentioned in the original post), I’d probably pick Wish from the “early late” period and Blood Flowers from the “late late” period. Honestly, though, those are decent records, but I don’t think that they really build on or expand upon what’s gone before a whole lot. And that’s totally fine, given where The Cure stood at that point career-wise.
I think my attachment to Wild Mood Swings is largely nostalgic. I was eighteen when it came out. “Jupiter Crash” in particular is special to me. And it’s a great album to drive to.
I can’t really pick a favorite Cure album — there are moments on every one that I love and others that I’m not as fond of. The juxtaposition of “The Kiss” and “Catch” on Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me always gets me, as do what I think of as “companion” songs from Japanese Whispers, “Let’s Go to Bed” and “The Walk.”
That’s what it is for me with the Cure — every album is an experience to me, whether it’s driving along 680 singing “Mint Car” in my new Mini Cooper or lying in the floor in young adult depths of despair while listening to Disintegration. They’re a constant for me.
If “Disintegration” only sold three million copies, how on earth did you come to the conclusion that the Cure were, at one point, the biggest alternative band in the land? Violator by Depeche Mode, which was released around the same time i believe, sold over seven million, including triple platinum status in America. The Cure were popular for a time, but they never once scaled the commercial heights of bands like the Mode or REM….even the Pet Shop Boys sales were more impressive.
I absolutely love their first record, both versions. Each song is like a tightly packed image made with lyrics and sounds. I really miss it in most of their later records. The second record, in comparison, surprisingly has too much filler groove time, nit really developing anywhere and not being supported by text – perhaps good as background, but background for what.